Shaquille O’Neal knows just how dominant he can be. Shaq was a world-destroying behemoth during his early days with the Orlando Magic and championship runs with the Los Angeles Lakers.

That’s why when someone claims he can be held to just 12 points, Shaq took it personally. In a recent episode of his own The Big Podcast, the Big Diesel was speaking out on Utah Jazz center Rudy Gobert as an “up and down player”. That’s when co-host Spice Adams tried to rile up the Lakers icon by claiming the Frenchman holds him to just a dozen points.

“12 points? Yeah, in the first three minutes. Let me tell you something, man. It’s against my religion for somebody to hold me one-on-one. I take that personally. I do.”

“First play of the game I always used to look and see what the defense is going to do,” Shaq said reliving his Lakers days. “Like ‘Okay, he’s doubling from Spice [Adams]. Spice is going to be wide open for the jumper. Like, I always look at the first play. But if I get it and nobody’s coming, I take that as a sign of disrespect.”

Shaq then went on to go onto the specifics for just how he’d turn Rudy Gobert into barbecued chicken.

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“You know what I’m going to do to him? He’s a shot blocker. You can’t shoot a shot. You’ve got to back his little skinny a– up under the rim. Show him the ‘bow so he gets scared and just go up.”

Shaq was the most dominant force in the paint during his heyday with the Lakers. It’s hard to imagine any player, even a 3-time DPOY like Rudy Gobert, holding him down.