When news broke that Vince McMahon was exiting WWE for the second time in 18 months, this time right before the Royal Rumble due to incredible backlash from Slim Jim and others during the initial fallout of the Janel Grant lawsuit, fans, wrestlers, and pundits alike wondered just how hands-off the former WWE Chairman of the Board would be away from the company he turned into one of the biggest sports organizations in the world.

Well, in an interview with The Insiders Podcast, long-time WWE employee Tom Carlucci revealed that McMahon has been effectively completely removed from WWE, with the second-generation booker barred from entering Titan Towers in Connecticut completely after his rocky exit.

“He can't even walk in the building. That's crazy that you drive by that building, you got the big championship belt, he always wanted those from day one, Conrad. Cause we were in two different buildings, you had the corporate office off exit nine, and then we're right down the street from the corporate office, our big production studio. He always wanted us under one roof. That was his dream to have us under one roof. The dream came, and he's not even a part of it anymore,” Tom Carlucci told The Insider Podcast via Fightful.

“The gym was created for Vince. He designed the gym with his trainer Mike, who I know really well. He can't even go in that gym anymore. He can't step foot anywhere. Every meeting that goes on over there, everybody asks, ‘Is Vince coming?' ‘You'll never see Vince here again,' from the TKO people.”

Carlucci then commented on many of the wrestlers and performers who have since turned on McMahon in the light of the allegations, with Paul Heyman and Paul “Triple H” Levesque identified as people who have buried the former booker over WrestleMania weekend.

“He's the legacy and that's what killed me about WrestleMania was, everybody just buried Vince. Heyman buried Vince, ‘I'm with Triple H now and..' Like, does Paul remember who bailed Heyman out back in the day? Vince. Who made Triple H Triple H? Great guy, I'm not saying anything bad about Triple H, but if it wasn't for Vince, half the guys wouldn't even be there making the money they made,” Carlucci said. “And then you're going to put the boots to him? Making him guilty before the trial even happens and saying you're a Paul Levesque guy? There would be no WrestleMania without Vince so it is crazy that you talk about his legacy and now he's just alone, he's alone. I think there is a lot of strain on the family at this point in time with Vince, his kids, Shane… I don't know for a fact but I think it is definitely happening. I think he is alone, I think he is. It's hard to believe, but I really do, I think he is. I don't think Vince had a lot of fans around him.”

Is it surprising that so many long-time Vince McMahon guys have turned on him? Maybe a little bit, but then again, when you consider the allegations levied against him and the decades of bad behavior that has been attributed to him over the years, it's safe to say WWE, by TKO's request or otherwise, have been told to distance themselves from the Billionaire as much as possible, and from a fan perspective, that appears to be the correct call.

Randy Orton is happy that Vince McMahon is gone too.

Speaking of Vince McMahon's issues with current and former members of the WWE Universe, Randy Orton told Bill Apter of WrestleBinge that while the long-time booker has helped him have a pretty incredible career, he's happy WWE made a change at the top, as the promotion is better off with some new ideas.

“Off the top of my head — and, listen, I love Vince, he gave me so many opportunities. But I think it was kind of time for him to move on. It's unfortunate that it happened in the way that it happened. But it's nice having people in charge of me that understand how important it is for you to be home for birthdays, and home for Thanksgiving, and home for Christmas,” Randy Orton told Bill Apter via Wrestling Headlines.

“Vince McMahon, he had RAW on Monday night live. He doesn't care if you had kids. I came to him when I was 35, and my back really started going, and I pleaded with him like, ‘Man, I got to like not to do as many shows, maybe do half the tour and be able to recover.' And he just looked at me and was like, ‘Oh, I need you on those shows, Randy. Mother Nature gets us all.' And to hear that and go, ‘Ok, well I guess there's no other thing I can do other than just wear myself out down to the nub until I can't walk anymore for this man.' And all of the opportunities he gave me, it's nice having him out of there. And it's nice having his son-in-law Triple H running the game. Nick Khan's great. Everybody at TKO that's come in [and] stepped in, they seem to get it. And it's just a different era…I think the way that they care for talent nowadays and make sure that talent's good and if they need a little bit of a break — we're only human — they get it, most of the time.”

When it comes to “Vince McMahon guys” in the WWE Universe, Orton would have to be either the top name or one of the top names most fans would think of in the promotion right now. If even he is out on Mr McMahon, then his exit from the promotion really is for the best.